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New Post 2/13/2009 3:22 AM
User is offline Craig Brown
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System req's dependency of bus process models 

Okay team

How much does a business process model affect a set of system requirements?

Do we need to wait until the processes are investigated,defined and improved, or should we get atarted on system requiremets right away?

Strengths?  Weaknesses?

 

 

 
New Post 2/14/2009 7:33 AM
User is offline Jarett Hailes
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Re: System req's dependency of bus process models 

 Hi Craig,

Interesting question - can you give a little more context?  What is the goal of the project?  Is this an 'IT driven' project that has already defined that a computer solution is required?  Or is this a 'Business driven' project that has a stated problem with some thoughts given to possible solution but the sponsors don't have set in their mind what needs to be done.

If your sponsors already believe that a 'system' must solve the problem, then understanding the current process is important but not as crucial to document and analyze.  By that I mean as a BA you'll become familiar with the process as you develop requirements around the system, but you may not explicitly document processes or think about them too deeply beyond how they translate into features and screens that are desired  by the client.

If you have an open minded steering group then in my opinion performing business process analysis prior to solution analysis is essential.  As a BA I would not suppose that an IT solution is required in every case.  I need to understand what's going on now, what problems the clients have with current state and what their needs are.  I would then use the documented processes to look for process re-engineering opportunities, which may or may not be dependent on the implementation of a IT solution to arrive at future state.

 
New Post 2/17/2009 10:37 AM
User is offline Tony Markos
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Re: System req's dependency of bus process models 

Craig:

Mantra of the old Aurther Anderson consulting organization (back in the 80's and before AA went belly-up for "cooking the books"):   "Simplify, Integrate, and THEN automate".  

Basically, if business process modeling is going to result in significant buisness process re-engineering, the automation needs can change radically. 

Some years ago I read a report from the National Science Foundation that stated that the major benefits from an automation effort are in the simplification and integration efforts (vs the automation efforts).   I have often experienced such.  I am often supprised how little anyone, even the process owners and project champions,  knows about how a business process "really happens".

Tony

 

 
New Post 2/20/2009 2:05 AM
User is offline Craig Brown
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Re: System req's dependency of bus process models 

Hi guys

In my example presume we are moving to a new system and along the way replacing some old legacy systems and plugging in a bunch of manual or spreadsheet/outlook workarounds.

This is a fairly common scenario, don't you think?

A particular interst I have is how do you manage the need to turn things arund quickly - to be seen to be doing something - and to minimise delivery risk.

 
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