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New Post 3/12/2012 2:49 AM
User is offline KJ
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Now that we have certification would a CBAP assure better outcomes? 
Modified By KJ  on 3/12/2012 3:49:42 AM)

All,

In the 80s we had a flurry of activity around Quality Assurance and Standard -- people became ISO xxx Certified, "black belts in the 1990s" etc. And it did make a big difference in process and discrete manufacturing

Now I know that CBAP is a relatively new "award", but does it make a difference? . And, if you already have 10-15 years experience as a BA, would you become a CBAP?

warm regards,

K

 
New Post 3/20/2012 9:00 AM
User is offline Engle
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Re: Now that we have certification would a CBAP assure better outcomes? 

 The hiring world of the future will rely heavily on acronym based scanning systems. The more acronyms you collect, the better chance you have of doors opening.

John Smith ITIL, CBAP, PMP will have a better chance of having his resume plucked from the pile and presented to a hiring manager, than a blankly suffixed Robert Jones. 

 

 

 

 
New Post 3/20/2012 4:06 PM
User is offline Tony Markos
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Re: Now that we have certification would a CBAP assure better outcomes? 

K:

Very good question for a BA to ask -  an obvious one!  Key point:  The BABOK discusses popular BA conventions.   Think about the articles that have appeared on this site calling for an increased maturity level amongst BA's.  Do you see a possible concern?

I do.  It is clear to me that what is popular does often does not make logical sense.  The old Stock Market adage " The masses are asses" has wide applicability.

Tony

 

 

 

 
New Post 3/24/2012 2:48 AM
User is offline KJ
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Re: Now that we have certification would a CBAP assure better outcomes? 

Tony,

Its like our profession is made overly complicated - and in the process, we forget some key inputs into the BA process. Data and its inter-relationship is one, which is SO obvious, yet its ignored in most BA deliverables. Maybe people dont like DATA, but when you draw a process you have to indicate the Data.

Just do a search of BPMN diagrams and you can count on one hand the number of diagrams that show data. The UML activity diagrams are no different, you hardly see Object Flows.

So unless the data flow is OBVIOUS in the diagrams then most process/activity  diagrams are OK then. However, in my experience not having the DATA and its interelationships is a MAJOR flaw.

But then again, its just me!

warm regards,

K

Ps. May-haps we've become a Tool-centric group that love using tools without any real thought behind whats really presented. The book Franck Frommer titled  How PowerPoint Makes You Stupid, is perhaps a consideration. ( I have not read the book but I've seen similar arguments proffered by others)

 

 

 
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